The most vulnerable and intense feelings are getting the most pain, you know…. Because it builds Character……..
Chloe sorta steamrolling this rekindling with comforting dismissive assumptions hurts to watch, and she really hasn’t had much practice listening… Damn if such a natural fallback dynamic between Mars and Chloe to compare to isn’t directly hurting Mars and Achilles after both of them put in a lot of work to find their footing together… My mind cannot help but remember how easily Mars defended Achilles when it came to Pepper getting him to lie, like Mars? MARS?
Feels unfair when you have to suddenly justify your relationships before you get comfortable defining them in the first place, but this is some serious backtracking! Hurting my boy in the not fun way!!!!
Neither of them wanting to risk fumbling this opportunity to reconnect again and trying to pretend that everything is just as it was before out of nostalgia is fucking rough bro :sailors-valentine:
I believe mars’ exact words were “I’m gonna throw you like a shotput now.”
I wonder how achilles is taking this, and by that I mean like, is he just hurt because mars doesn’t really accept him? or is he starting to think that mars is actually doing all this strictly just for the money, since mars never made it clear to him otherwise (even tho technically that was the arrangement he’s had with her all along)? is it a combo of the two, where he’s like oh she doesn’t accept me being weird BC it’s all just been for the money. it would kind of explain why she hasn’t come around to accepting him.
My poor baby oh no. He looks so sad and heartbroken. I wish I could help him feel better. I hope he doesn’t start thinking that Mars doesn’t care about him. She really does, she’s just too scared to say anything and this whole Chloe situation really isn’t helping.
Tbh he also hurt Mars’ heart. This might be the only way they both reach the conclusion they’re special to each other beyond the uh. *Stuff* they get up to.
i’m a few months late to sharing these thoughts (especially since mini achilles isn’t present here, but relevant to my ramblings) since i like to let pages build up and then read them all in one go, but i think thought bubble achilles helps with the theory that halo head is a system’s headspace! he’s a fragment that hasn’t entirely split off of achilles, and thus only achilles is really aware of him at the moment.
additionally, the past iterations of halo head is similar to how some systems have a cycle of sort of “starting over” and recycling old sets of alters into similar but new ones, with or without memories of this occurring. ares was recycled into mars, for instance.
clair strikes me as the kind of more solid alter that has a lot of influence over how headspace works, the kind that’s able to will new ones into existence if she thinks it’s what the collective needs. her heart is in the right place, but her controlling nature makes her somewhat of a “misguided protector” type – a protector that believes what they’re doing is for everyone’s own good, but is actually causing tension and harm within the system.
chloe is closer to the core, or perhaps some sort of trauma holder split off of the original core.
mars is an anger holder, a protector who puts up barriers of barbed wire to avoid pain.
achilles holds a lot of neurodivergence and innocence within himself, as well as… other quirks, obviously.
pepper is in a tailspin, someone that isn’t sure what exactly he’s supposed to be but wants to try to understand everything.
peachykeen is peachykeen.
we all have a peachykeen in there.
probably.
:peachy-aaa:
Ah. I see we need to distinguish between [ owned | dedicated ] and [ (general purpose) | (free-use) ] submissive. Canon event, sure, but a very necessary conversation.
Here’s hoping Mars and Achilles manage this teachable moment well.
Mars likes to present herself with a punk persona, but in reality she’s afraid of being different. She’s afraid of being judged. She’s a poser, is what I’m trying to say. She uses aggression to hide her cowardice, as bullies often do. That’s not to say I think she’s still a bully. She might have started out as one, but she’s had a lot of character development! But she’s still got some growing to do (don’t we all). And Chloe is reinforcing her fear by saying, “I’m so happy that you’re not weird! We can be friends again now that I know you’re still a bully!”
Chloe, on the other hand, has had very little character development so far. She’s self centered and doesn’t think about how other people feel. Bullying Achilles makes her feel better about her own shortcomings. She resists change and personal growth every step of the way, and since she’s not growing, she’s afraid of everyone else growing without her. Mars is only reinforcing Chloe’s refusal to grow by not standing up for Achilles and herself.
Chloe refusing to speak to Achilles and only addressing Mars takes on such a different tone when she’s purposefully engaging with him. Her open contempt for him throughout the comic was never ideal, but it was initially in response to his harassment of Mars in the beginning and then out of jealousy. Her insultingly discussing him right in front of him while they both ignore and speak over him and she takes control in their interactions makes it a lot harder to ignore.
Ah, well I somehow didn’t foresee Chloe and Mars finally talking to just make things worse actually, especially not for Achilles. We’re so close to the inhabitants being honest with each other but this feels like backsliding.
oh… oh no. not achilles:clair-despair:
NOOOO
My baby boy:clair-despair: noooooo
Achilles is about to get Red Pilled 🙁
Don’t even joke. T-T
Time go cry, pals :clair-sad:
Listen here motherfucker :clair-hey:
NOOOOO TT A TT)
Does this count as a polycule? :achilles-rose:
Yes
The most vulnerable and intense feelings are getting the most pain, you know…. Because it builds Character……..
Chloe sorta steamrolling this rekindling with comforting dismissive assumptions hurts to watch, and she really hasn’t had much practice listening… Damn if such a natural fallback dynamic between Mars and Chloe to compare to isn’t directly hurting Mars and Achilles after both of them put in a lot of work to find their footing together… My mind cannot help but remember how easily Mars defended Achilles when it came to Pepper getting him to lie, like Mars? MARS?
Feels unfair when you have to suddenly justify your relationships before you get comfortable defining them in the first place, but this is some serious backtracking! Hurting my boy in the not fun way!!!!
Neither of them wanting to risk fumbling this opportunity to reconnect again and trying to pretend that everything is just as it was before out of nostalgia is fucking rough bro :sailors-valentine:
fucking brutal
I imagine she’s not going to bully him like mars bc that seems highly sexual but maybe want to fork him over to peachy?
I believe mars’ exact words were “I’m gonna throw you like a shotput now.”
I wonder how achilles is taking this, and by that I mean like, is he just hurt because mars doesn’t really accept him? or is he starting to think that mars is actually doing all this strictly just for the money, since mars never made it clear to him otherwise (even tho technically that was the arrangement he’s had with her all along)? is it a combo of the two, where he’s like oh she doesn’t accept me being weird BC it’s all just been for the money. it would kind of explain why she hasn’t come around to accepting him.
Noo, Mars, you were doing so good
My poor baby oh no. He looks so sad and heartbroken. I wish I could help him feel better. I hope he doesn’t start thinking that Mars doesn’t care about him. She really does, she’s just too scared to say anything and this whole Chloe situation really isn’t helping.
NOOOOOOOOO ACHILLES 🥺🥺 HE DOSENT DESERVE THIS
As of this page, Achilles has now been drawn in the comic over 1000 times, being the first character to reach this milestone.
thank you for your important work, Beedle! :achilles-prrr:
explodes, dies, disintegrates into dust
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO UUUUUUGGHHHH STOPPPP KEEP GOING BUT STOOOOOOOOOOOP
I don’t know how Achilles can read all those word bubbles when he’s upside down.
Maybe he said because he thinks he’s illiterate again.
NOOO MARS YOU WEREN’T SUPPOSED TO HURT HIS HEART :sailors-valentine:
Tbh he also hurt Mars’ heart. This might be the only way they both reach the conclusion they’re special to each other beyond the uh. *Stuff* they get up to.
i’m a few months late to sharing these thoughts (especially since mini achilles isn’t present here, but relevant to my ramblings) since i like to let pages build up and then read them all in one go, but i think thought bubble achilles helps with the theory that halo head is a system’s headspace! he’s a fragment that hasn’t entirely split off of achilles, and thus only achilles is really aware of him at the moment.
additionally, the past iterations of halo head is similar to how some systems have a cycle of sort of “starting over” and recycling old sets of alters into similar but new ones, with or without memories of this occurring. ares was recycled into mars, for instance.
clair strikes me as the kind of more solid alter that has a lot of influence over how headspace works, the kind that’s able to will new ones into existence if she thinks it’s what the collective needs. her heart is in the right place, but her controlling nature makes her somewhat of a “misguided protector” type – a protector that believes what they’re doing is for everyone’s own good, but is actually causing tension and harm within the system.
chloe is closer to the core, or perhaps some sort of trauma holder split off of the original core.
mars is an anger holder, a protector who puts up barriers of barbed wire to avoid pain.
achilles holds a lot of neurodivergence and innocence within himself, as well as… other quirks, obviously.
pepper is in a tailspin, someone that isn’t sure what exactly he’s supposed to be but wants to try to understand everything.
peachykeen is peachykeen.
we all have a peachykeen in there.
probably.
:peachy-aaa:
Now listen here young business man, you need to stand up for yourself. Uh, hang down for yourself.
ACHILLES my LOVE I promise Mars really likes you!!
she just isn’t good at feelings ToT
MARS STAHP JUST GO TAKE CARE OF YOUR LITTLE MAN
YOU’RE BREAKING HIS HEART WHYY
Tsk tsk tsk. x2
god, i saw this coming. but. :sailors-valentine::sailors-valentine:
NOOOO THE BABEY:sailors-valentine:
Ah. I see we need to distinguish between [ owned | dedicated ] and [ (general purpose) | (free-use) ] submissive. Canon event, sure, but a very necessary conversation.
Here’s hoping Mars and Achilles manage this teachable moment well.
Nooo my poor baby, achillies you know she didnt mean it!! :achilles-prrr:
I don’t think he does, he takes everything literally so now he’s probably confused mars is contradicting her past self and not being accepting again
Oh no! It got sadder so fast! Bully behavior. 🙁
Mars likes to present herself with a punk persona, but in reality she’s afraid of being different. She’s afraid of being judged. She’s a poser, is what I’m trying to say. She uses aggression to hide her cowardice, as bullies often do. That’s not to say I think she’s still a bully. She might have started out as one, but she’s had a lot of character development! But she’s still got some growing to do (don’t we all). And Chloe is reinforcing her fear by saying, “I’m so happy that you’re not weird! We can be friends again now that I know you’re still a bully!”
Chloe, on the other hand, has had very little character development so far. She’s self centered and doesn’t think about how other people feel. Bullying Achilles makes her feel better about her own shortcomings. She resists change and personal growth every step of the way, and since she’s not growing, she’s afraid of everyone else growing without her. Mars is only reinforcing Chloe’s refusal to grow by not standing up for Achilles and herself.
Poor Achilles… :achilles-onedge:
Chloe refusing to speak to Achilles and only addressing Mars takes on such a different tone when she’s purposefully engaging with him. Her open contempt for him throughout the comic was never ideal, but it was initially in response to his harassment of Mars in the beginning and then out of jealousy. Her insultingly discussing him right in front of him while they both ignore and speak over him and she takes control in their interactions makes it a lot harder to ignore.
Taking down the piñata already? I expected them to accidentally knock the drawing of Ares out of him.
Ah, well I somehow didn’t foresee Chloe and Mars finally talking to just make things worse actually, especially not for Achilles. We’re so close to the inhabitants being honest with each other but this feels like backsliding.
come on achilles spill the beans
Time to ask for a refund, Achilles was able to think too much during this session
Oof, ouch, real but… hurts :achilles-loaf:
:clair-despair: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO